Beware! 4xCube is an offshore broker! Your investment may be at risk.
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4XCube is a CFD forex brokerage registered in the UK. It states that it provides the MetaTrader 4 trading platform and an extremely generous leverage. Traders are extended a leverage of up to 1:200. Furthermore, there is a wide range of trading products from which to choose and a very favorable spread of 0.8 pips on EUR/USD. The minimum deposit is $100 which is also below the industry average and in favor of traders.
4XCube regulation & safety of funds
The information given by the brokerage is quite unclear. We gather that the company behind the brokerage is registered in the UK by the name 4xCube Limited, however, we are also lead to believe that the brokerage is registered in Cook Islands and regulated by the Financial Supervisory Commission. Here is a screenshot:
Such a statement is problematic because it is misleading. Cook Islands is an offshore zone linked politically with New Zealand which does not regulate CFD brokers. They (FX brokers) may simply register there, as they can in pretty much every other country. However, 4xCube does have a license issued for foreign currency exchange which we must underline is not the same thing as CFD trading, which the brokerage purports to provide. Furthermore, such a license does not guarantee the same protection for clients as a license by the FCA or CySec. We have no participation in a compensatory scheme, nor assurance for the segregation of accounts. A lack of credible regulation is always worrisome. However, to do justice to the brokerage – we must say that it provides the MT4 platform, as well as a demo account with a favorable spread:
We urge traders to exclude such risk in trading by only associating with brokers regulated by prestigious regulatory agencies, such as the FCA and CySec, which require compliance with a number of strict rules that give significant assurance for the security of the clients funds.
The segregation of accounts is among the rules which are especially important in the trading world, because it drastically lowers the risk of possible commingling.
Another is the participation in a compensatory scheme by which the client’s losses will be covered in the unlikely case the broker goes bankrupt or attempts to swindle traders.
4XCube deposit/withdrawal methods and fees
Clients may deposit or withdraw via Bank Wire, Perfect Money, PaySec, 2pay4you, Paysec, Vload, sofortBanking, Neteller, Skrill and Bitcoin. Going through the brokers website we did find some withdrawal conditions in the terms of the brokerage. There are both withdrawal and deposit fees, which aren’t excessive and are explicitly stated on the website. Here is a screenshot:
However, without the assurance which goes hand in hand with a license by a respectable agency such as the FCA, we cannot be certain whether the brokerage won’t further charge clients with unexpected fees, once they have deposited the money.
Precisely due to this we also remind readers of all the ways a they may test the brokerage’s intentions. Firstly, traders are advised to always put up only the required minimum deposit, instead of risking a bigger amount with no certainty. Afterwards, they may also try to withdraw a small amount in order to check for any unexpected fees or delays. Such fees and delays are usually the signs of a scammer.
How does the scam work?
We strongly believe the best prevention of scamming would be well-informed traders that can easily deduce if a certain set-up is legitimate and if it is not. This would be done best when they know how scammers operate. Here is a description of the typical three steps:
Through clicking an ad with promises for fast money, you will be redirected to a website such as Bitcoin Evolution or The bitcoin miner where registration will require you to give your address, email and phone number. After sharing your personal information, you will being receiving calls from brokers, compelling you to invest with them and win big. After a few minutes hearing their pitches, you decide to deposit some $200-250. And just like that – the scammers take a fat commission from this initial deposit.
After they are done with you, senior scammers begin working you into putting even more money. They say it’s the only way to profit from trading even more. After making the mistake of investing even further, you’ll begin wanting to get out of this and withdraw what you have left.
Unfortunately, the con-artists have no such thing in mind. They will now begin persuading you to wait it out and not withdraw right now. The motive here is quite straightforward – traders have a limited time window for filing a chargeback with their bank and get their money back. The “recovery department” will simply want to mislead you into missing this crucial period and, along the way, losing any chance you might have of getting the money back. Due to the high instances of fraud – both Visa and MasterCard have taken upon themselves to circumvent scammers in forex trading. Backing up their intentions – MasterCard has already increased the previous time period of six months for filing a chargeback to a year and a half and Visa is expected to follow suit in December.
What to do when scammed?
As was mentioned above, scamming is quite the common in the trading world and, sadly, even you might suffer from it. In such an unfortunate case there still may be some available options for you.
You may contact your bank or credit card provider and file a chargeback.
If, however, you have provided the broker with your credit card details, immediately cancel your credit card.
If you have given information regarding your online banking pass – you should switch it asap!
Beware of potential calls from self-described “recovery agencies”! They prey on scammed and vulnerable traders who are desperate to recover their losses. They will require an “up-front” payment to help you, but after paying them, no such help will be coming your way!
4xCube Team
4xCUbe is registered and Licensed in the Cook Islands with Money Changing license MC03/2018.
We have physical offices in Rarotonga, Cook Islands.
We don’t have brokerage activity in the UK, and the information in the website is pretty clear on that.
Cook Islands DO REGULATE FOREX BROKERS, and information can be found at the Financial Supervisory Commission website:
https://www.fsc.gov.ck/cookIslandsFscApp/content/business-contacts/money
For more informations feel free to contact the regulator directly, or 4xCube in the contacts provided in our webpage.
Bob smith
What a strange article. Regulatory change in Europe has forced the broker community to become rather more creative in ensuring they can continue to provide high levels of leverage to those who need it to make algo-based trading strategies work.
Eric Ferreira
One of the best spreads in the market.
You try to open an account in europe with leverage 1:200 and you will see the answer from your broker. Europe brokers are doomed.
Market needs new ideas.
So far nothing to point at 4xCube and their service.
Truthfinder
Really shockingly bad customer care, 4xcube and Gary Strong have no remorse for the innocent people who’s lives they have destroyed through very suspicious trading activity. Avoid this company.
Christy
4xcube collaborate with Gary Strong/Strong Partners/Investment Club,he has to keep changing the name of his company due to the large amount of people he has scammed.He is constantly hard selling his strategies and it never ends well for those he sucks in.
Andrew Scott
Gary strong, wow where do you start with this loser, few years back this sad character was hard selling a pyramid scheme called MAP, then name changed to TAP…well you guessed it,it all went up in the air as all these get rich schemes do, with only the main scammers getting anything out of it, then old Gazza turns himself into this globe trotting finance guru…honestly whoever falls for this loser’s lies deserves to be done over, last year he supposedly moved to Cyprus to buy properties, new offices etc etc…turns out he can only afford to rent some crappy apartment and get round on a push bike !! But bless him he keeps scamming, he keeps ruining lives, but he is slowly getting outed as the con man he is. If you ever want a good old-fashioned belly laugh watch some of is Facebook videos, he makes out he his this good looking Playboy , thing is he has a massive nose balding head and I would say he is knocking on a bit, funny sad Guy.
Rod Stalker
Andrew Scott, I salute you, what an excellent review of that scammer, spot on.He is everything you described, you forgot to mention he is constantly buying range rovers,staying in 5 star hotels and gate crashing parties of people he doesn’t know and pretending they are launch parties for his new brokerage 4xcube, who, are not entirely innocent themselves.
Gemma
4xcube aren’t to be trusted, they’ve only been around 6 months and already far too many people have been conned out of their investment. Do not trust them, dodgy from day 1.
4xCube Team
Official Statement 4xCube Ltd:
During the past few weeks our Compliance Department have been handling few enquiries and clarifying all your questions and concerns either by email, phone or social media pages.
We clearly state our Complaints Policy in our website in the Legal Documentation section, which needs to be followed in order for us to address your concerns more accurately and efficiently.
We do not normally intervene on public forums, as we do allow our clients to speak freely and to leave their honest opinions.
However we cannot allow and ignore several false statements and negligent misrepresentations (punished by law) which we need to clarify once for all.
1) Gary Strong was an independent strategy provider and an Introducer for 4xcube Ltd, and never at any given time was he directly involved with the company setup and/or shareholding structure.
2) We are not privy of any of the private communication established between our Introducer and clients of 4xCube and for that fact we cannot comment on the below allegations.
3) 4xcube has obtained a money changing license (MC-03/2018) from the Cook Islands Financial Supervisory Commission (hereinafter FSC) based on the Money Changing and Remittance Businesses Act 2009, after undergoing all the required checks by the relevant authorities, as per the legislation. Furthermore, the ongoing business is constantly monitored and supervised by the Cook Islands FSC, including but not limited to quarterly audits and reviews, alongside daily oversight of all AML and KYC procedures as per the FSC’s code of practice. 4xCube has a physical presence on the Cook Islands, in the form of offices and employees to aid the relevant authorities to complete their assessments of the work done by the Company. We would also like to add that the company’s accounts are audited by an internationally renowned and reputable accounting and auditing firm.
For future reference, we recommend you to contact our Company directly and request the necessary information, allowing us the opportunity to clarify any of your concerns prior to making a public defamatory review of our business.
In the meantime if you require any additional information feel free to contact us by email at [email protected] or calling us on +44 203 514 9306.
4xCube Ltd
Jesus Guzman
I am about to register in this broker, I want to invest a few cash.
do you guys think it is a good idea?
Amina
They denied any knowledge of a ponzi scam that happened there,they refused to investigate and did nothing for the victims,as a result the scammer is still free to recruit new victims.so,if customer service is important to you,it would be a bad choice.
mohammed khaled
I am trading with 4xCube, and I feel safe and secure with them!!
Specially, when I saw they are member of the financial commission and accounts are secured up to €20,000 per client.
They have a good execution and spreads , and extremly impressed with their professionalism.
Alex
Good luck if/when things go wrong, the financial commission did nothing for the ponzi victims either, they just basically said tough luck, you were scammed, so the ponzi scammer got away with a cool million and the victims got zero help.
I’m sure they are great when things are going well, but from my personal experience they failed all those people,and were only concerned with keeping it quiet.
4xCube Support Team
Dear Alex,
We regret to hear that you had a bad experience with a Strategy Provider at 4xCube.
As mentioned before, you have subscribed an independent strategy provide after accepted and acknowledged the Terms and Conditions associated to Strategy PAMM Investing.
4xCube is an execution-only broker, licensed by the FSC (Financial Supervisory Commission) with license number MC03/2018, and also member of the Financial Commission, an independent entity that mediates disputes of this kind. Both organisms clearly stated that 4xCube is not at fault in this case.
We are concerned only in presenting the truth and the facts as they are.
If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us directly at [email protected]
4xCube Support Team.
Alex
So are you admitting that Gary Strong was indeed using your company to conduct criminal activity, But you were not involved? because given how much money disappeared,it would have been nice if you could give the victims some closure by explaining exactly how he did it,how did he withdraw all that money without anyone noticing? Why was he allowed to turn off trading history? So many questions were ignored.As an act of courtesy,you could have shown some compassion towards all those people who are still suffering today,and still know nothing about how he got away with it.
4xCube Support Team
Dear Alex,
All Independent Strategy Providers pass a rigorous KYC check before providing strategies to 4xCube clients.
Gary Strong signed up as one and passed all our due diligence, as I believe it also passed yours or you wouldnt have subscribed his strategy in the first place.
All strategy providers are allowed to activate/deactivate different settings of their strategy via clients portal.
We can only admit that we have done everything it was in our power to highlight the risks, and never at any giving moment we blocked access to clients to monitor their current balances or withdraw their funds.
Furthermore, we didnt leave any inquiry unanswered.
We truly regret the outcome of this independent strategy, but compassion cannot be confused as compensation.
From a legal stand point, our Compliance and Legal team will never share their decisions publicly, so I believe any further discussion in open court does not benefit any client or ourselves.
Consider this our last message on this regard.
If you require any additional information, we will be happy to provide it via official channels 4xcube.
4xcube Support Team.
Warning
Warning to all
Greg Kirchmann, founder of Adelaide Master Guttering was introduced by his sister Renate Kirchmann, both was apart of Banner Brokers, MAP, TAP, Dubia Properties Pty Ltd, USI tech and still registered members and promotors of 4xcube. Avoid these scammers at all costs. They are the main leaders of this scam. I have evidence of these people promoting this FX scam. Legal investigations are in progress. More social media awareness on these individuals will follow.
Dave Fellows, L. Fellows, introduced by expert FX trader Dale Lee, all live in Queensland, also apart of Banner Brokers, MAP, TAP, Dubia Properties Pty Ltd, USI tech and still registered members and promotors of 4xcube. Avoid these scammers at all costs. They are also the main leaders of this scam. I have evidence of these people promoting this FX scam. Legal investigations are in progress. More social media awareness on these individuals will follow.
Paul Goodwin, (Moose) lives in Perth, introduced to 4xcube by Susan Tucker, also from Perth. Also apart of Banner Brokers, MAP, TAP, Dubia Properties Pty Ltd, USI tech and still registered member and promotor of 4xcube. Avoid this scammer at all costs. He is also another leader of this scam. I have evidence of these people promoting this FX scam. Legal investigations are in progress. More social media awareness on this individual will follow.
Tracey Benn, lives in Perth, also apart of USI tech and still registered member and promotor of 4xcube. Avoid this scammer at all costs. He is also another leader of this scam. I have evidence of this person promoting this FX scam. Legal investigations are in progress. More social media awareness on this individual will follow.
Mark Wilson, also lives in Perth, also apart of USI tech and still registered member and promotor of 4xcube. Avoid this scammer at all costs. He is also another leader of this scam. I have evidence of this person promoting this FX scam. Legal investigations are in progress. More social media awareness on this individual will follow.
Please report these scammers. Add your story here…
victim
Gary Strong, you are a disgusting liar, how dare you say that, people need to google Gary Strong myadvertisingpays, or Gary Strong scam, that will tell you who is the scammer.
FACT
Gary was an investor and IB this business along with 350,000 others, not owner. FACT!
Tiina Hoody
I see 4xcube and Gary Strong has been under attack. I would like to clarify from my own point of view.
Gary and I was registered IBS for 4xcube and London Capital Group, prior to LCG was HYCM and Pure Markets where we had made very good profits for many years and worked very well together. We used a third party trading company whilst the broker excepted the trades. Our focus was to build the fund and create a nice group of good energy investors. I know for a fact Gary Strong invests in several companies all at once and never puts all into the same company. He was also investing in other start up companies and some London traders that was working on some new algorithms but I don’t know who or what. Joao was helping myself and my team to grow as I also wanted my own IB team of investors. Things for the last 12 months went well at first.
I had haven’t spoken to Gary Strong for many months now. The last I heard he was working on a new solution in London and was making progress even under this horrible circumstances. What people to see is that he also made a big loss and by far bigger than what I had invested at the time. I knew the risks and it was managed very good unto using 4xcube. Something went wring in Feb and Gary Strong lost not only his own funds but his team and followers that he has worked so hard for as he had moved people together from previous businesses he had been apart of. People followed Gary and he had a big following of 110k likes on his facebook page. He said to not write anything about him or the business and to keep off line until he had answers but that could take time. To be fair to him, he showed me what he was doing and why but clearly said it may take months. Not to get involved in any online chats.
I am writing this as I believe 4xcube was exciting the trades ok and we was managing new investors perfecting and growing at a rapid rate. The issue here, and I still don’t understand it, was how it was traded towards the end and how it all ended up getting lost.
I invested my £9k into it and we were shown profits but then suddenly it went down hill. The account my money was in had 26 investors and 22 (Gary strong said 22) lost all their money. Gary had 600+ clients, using different names through 4xcube due to locations of investors and how much they was investing as it was easier for 4xcube to manage. Something about compliance and leverage. We were expecting these were demo account trading they were showing but we had no evidence but I know now from 4xcube that these was actually live real accounts from out own trading accounts so this was true. I saw my own trades when I requested to see them from 4xcube. I panicked and accused Gary but I see now.
I said before Gary Strong said he owned 4xCube and why does 4xCube now say he’s only an independent trader but I misunderstood him. He had plans to become apart of 4xcube as it grow and planned to join in other aspects of the business once it had made 100m funded.
I think its fair to say, we simply just can’t blame Gary but I would like to have answers as to how this was traded so badly towards the end and why it all went. I know the stop loss we put in on 4xcube was merely a crm feature and the third party trading partners had their own stop loss and risk management so what we typed on 4xcube didn’t matter but why didn’t the third party not pull out on stop loss??
Gary and 4xcube still need to give us clear answers on this please. We have patiently waited long enough.
Thank you
Tiina
4xCube Team
Dear Sirs,
To whom it may concern,
Once again we highlight this is a review page of 4xCube Ltd and not of any of past or present business introducers.
we HEREBY require you to cease and desist from associating 4xCube to FX scam businesses meant to mislead your readers;
For several occasions we have explained the facts both publicly and in reply to direct inquiries.
Once again we highlight the fact that 4xCube is an Execution-only Broker, and for that fact we do not hold responsibility for any trading performed by 3rd parties using our trading venue.
Failure to comply with these requirements will force 4xCube to take legal action against you and demand compensation for any losses caused and will be caused as a direct result of the defamatory statements and misrepresentations. Please note that in this event you may be charged additionally with legal fees relating to any interim proceedings instituted in the country of origin.
Consider this a last warning.
Once again we are available to provide any clarification of facts or trading history.
4xCube Team
Somebody lock this crim up
This is ridiculous, 4xcube, I appreciate that all this Gary Strong nonsense is exceedingly bad for you, but when he starts impersonating one of his female victims, and calling us all scammers, then of course, we are going to defend ourselves.It is really beyond belief how childish he is, as if anyone would believe the rubbish that he writes,you can tell it’s him straight away.I’m sorry, but this germ is not going to disappear unless someone does something about him,I honestly cannot understand how he is still free to cause so much havoc to innocent peoples lives.
Ex investor
The forex review, can you please remove the defamatory reviews made by Gary Strong in the name of Tiina Hoody and “warning” these are fake reviews intended to intimidate his victims, and all the people he accuses of being scammers are completely innocent, ironically,Gary Strong was a ringleader in all the scams he mentions.
Ex investor
Just to be 100% clear, the warning post and Tiina Hoody post are both fake and written by Gary Strong, he has a long history of intimidating his victims. Ironically, Gary Strong was a ringleader in all the scams he mentions, the people he names are completely innocent. Always be very careful if you have ever had any contact with Gary Strong.
Leo
Public shaming of Gary Strong didn’t work,he is still deceiving people with the soul intention of stealing their money,he is now a fake Spaniard who goes by the name of Antonio Diego of Antonio Partners, sadly, it looks like he is launching a new bitcoin scam, Antonio is apparently so successful that TV companies are chomping at the bit for interviews with him.lol. so just be aware and remember his names.
Ex investor
Anyone got this email?
On 11 October 2019, ANZ received a notification from the Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC) confirming the aforementioned parties are unlicensed foreign entities that have made unsolicited calls to Australian investors to invest in non-existent financial products. Victims are then directed to deposit funds into foreign bank accounts.
Details of known bank accounts are listed below:
Account name: 4xCube Ltd
Account number: 608000
Bank name: Capital Security Bank Limited – Cook Islands
ASIC has formed the view that 4xCube Ltd’s operations constitute a cold-calling scam. ASIC is aware that Australian investors have been induced to invest funds by the convincing telephone calls and associated websites used by the operators of these scams.
ASIC has added the details of 4xCube Ltd to its public list of “unlicensed overseas callers and fake regulators” located at http://www.moneysmart.gov.au.
You can access the specific ASIC warning at the following internet address:
https://www.moneysmart.gov.au/scams/companies-you-should-not-deal-with/unlicensed-companies-list/0-9/4xcube-ltd
ANZ’s records indicate that you have made, or attempted to make, one or more payments to 4xCube Ltd or one of their related accounts.
Given that ASIC has formally advised that it considers 4xCube Ltd to be part of an international scam, and has publically listed a warning in relation to this group, ANZ strongly recommends that you send no further funds to these entities.
If you have further queries regarding this ASIC notification or other cold calling scams, you can contact ASIC’s Infoline directly on 1300 300 630.
Alternatively, you can contact me if you have any questions regarding this matter, my contact details are listed below.
Yours sincerely
We were right all along
4xCube Ltd
Official 4xcube Statement regarding ANZ notification from the Australian Securities and investment Commission:
ANZ received notification confirming 4xCube as an unlicensed foreign Entity in Australia, which is a fact as 4xcube is licensed in the Cook Islands, under Money Changing License number MC03/2018, issued by the Financial Supervisory Commission.
Regarding the matter of unsolicited calls and emails, 4xCube denies this accusation and we are currently in dialogue with ASIC to resolve this matter.
In response to the comment, stating that ASIC added details of 4xCube to a public list of fake regulators, this is untrue, which can be verified on the following link:
https://www.moneysmart.gov.au/scams/companies-you-should-not-deal-with/fake-regulators-and-exchanges
We would like also to highlight the fact that The Cook Islands has been rated one of the best in the world for technical compliance with 38 out of the 40 FATF Recommendations as per link below:
http://bit.ly/FSC2qiSGX0
Furthermore, important also to mention that ASIC has not completed any kind of investigation in result of possible complaints, therefore ASIC has issued a very generic sweeping statement as per their own notification “could be involved”.
The possible complaint to ASIC that resulted in this warning notification, has been investigated both by our regulatory body FSC (Financial Supervisory Commission), and the independent entity Financial Commission, which has confirmed that no misappropriation of funds took place.
We HEREBY require you to cease and desist from associating 4xCube to any scam businesses meant to mislead readers;
Once again we highlight the fact that 4xCube is an Execution-only Broker, and for that fact we do not hold responsibility for any trading performed by 3rd parties using our trading venue.
Failure to comply with these requirements will force 4xCube to take legal action against you and demand compensation for any losses caused and will be caused as a direct result of the defamatory statements and misrepresentations. Please note that in this event you may be charged additionally with legal fees relating to any interim proceedings instituted in the country of origin.
Once again we are available to provide any clarification of facts or further information.
4xCube Team
Shaun Harris
Given that ASIC has formally advised that it considers 4xCube Ltd to be part of an international scam, and has publically listed a warning in relation to this group, ANZ strongly recommends that you send no further funds to these entities.
4xcube also owned by 8topuz which was called Paragon Trading before last year. Wouldn’t this be apart of an international scam especially as they are the same owners.
You can access the specific ASIC warning at the following internet address:
https://www.moneysmart.gov.au/scams/companies-you-should-not-deal-with/unlicensed-companies-list/0-9/4xcube-ltd
cybersecurity officer Shaun Harris on [email protected]
Another IB sucker
Has anyone had dealings with these two: Joao Monteiro or John Goddard?
I met both John and Joao in late 2018. We meet at a China FX event where they was both promoting 8topuz and 4xcube. I was very impressed with them both. Both John and Joao said they was both Executive Directors of 8topuz and owned a brokerage called 4xcube that is based in the Cook Islands.
They recommended me to use their trading software 8topuz that had been running for 4 years and had some very successful IBS using it. They also recommend me to use their brokerage for cheap executions of trades. I had my lawyer follow up with due diligence and everything came back, ok.
They was eager for high funds to be deposited, in return they offered me a partnership with shares in 4xcube and possibilities of becoming a Director and other future possibilities of other companies such as other algo trading businesses like 8topuz. They was working on launching around 12 by end of 2019. Many of the IBs could use these also to help promote new investors to sign up to 4xcube whilst using the 8topuz algo.
I had eventually invested over $4million by April 2019. I was very happy with the trading performance. I started to introduce this trading software to my network of investors as I run my own wealth group in Sydney and had many loyal followers. Naturally I had no reason to believe this was by any means a scam or a weak trading company. Everyone set up their individual accounts and we all signed the same terms and conditions.
In total we had close to $20 million under management. We had arranged for 5, 10-year projections and we was all compounding our funds for this time period. Some investors were adding extra cash to compound one account monthly to top up on some higher targeted algorithms. The focus group wanted the ability to add more funds more than they could afford so they set up several accounts, 10% in high risk, high returns, 30% in medium and 60% in a safe low performance algo 2% ave.
However, the software is nothing more than a martingale strategy which was manipulated to distort prices and payouts, without notice your account will be closed and all the money you invest will go straight into the fraudsters bank account.
No trading rules we had agreed and signed for or procedures was being followed and the gains and losses made are all imaginary. The master stop loss we had set up for all accounts across all strategies was not followed and all accounts was wiped out in 7 days. They had refused to use agreed stop loss.
Joao Monteiro and John Goddard said it was just bad market conditions, but I have had the trades analysed. I have also managed to speak to other IBS that also lost money this year to confirm my doubts. Several stories has confirmed my gut feeling. This was a set up from 4xcube to net the losses, using 8tpuz was the tool all IBs used. I am speaking with ASIC and legal to develop more evidence. They have been trading for 1 year and wiped out hundreds of accounts from around the world.
I now believe between 4xcube and 8topuz, they tempt investors and IBs with a promise of solid fortunes through ‘secret trading formulas’ or algorithm-based ‘proprietary’ trading methodologies or ‘forex robot’. But beware the systems and formulas used by them was changed without notifying me or other IBs that brought funds in. They started to perform trades outside what we had signed for in our contacts.
I now believe both 4xcube and 8topuz uses IBs to bring in funds on a promise of building something amazing only to pull the plug and leave them to pick up the pieces whilst they say all they did was to execute the trades of the algo. More and more IBs are now saying the same and coming forward.
2 IBs has been taking legal action against them all this year but they refuse to speak to me as it can impact their own legal case.
I am eager to hear from more IBs that they have set up.
Don’t be used. Speak out.
Another IB sucker
Ron Gad
can you please send me your contact number or email, i need further details as we are filling a complaint
Karma
Haha, Gary you scammy trash, we are all waiting to see you punished by law.
Fake Identities
Sure, it sounds interesting but not more confidently at least.
it’s all second-hand knowledge, hearsay from hearsay.
For us here it is rather doubtful, without strong evidences regarding the fraudsters identity it is not more than a typical scam spectacle basing on fake identities and fake case environment.
Do you not wonder that you can’t find official trustworthy publications about a kind of juridical prosecution against this person.
not on any official wanted list… no arrestment… no search and seizure… no court hearing… no conviction or judgment against
I believe that felt a lot of people in investment swindle basing on this “Gary Strong” identity and its websites, all “his” public casts looks completely fraudulent, no doubt.
But for lack of real evidences completely i disbelieve in the pilloried in all this different internet publications as real, identity of so called “Gary Strong” as the fraud offender
I would be happy to find a strong evidence for existing a real identity “Gary Strong” related to the pictures of this man.
I don’t feel confident, that this identity is authentically.
Is here somebody who met this guy in real and saw evidences for his identity.
I don’t mean social media accounts, send by him documents, letters from other companies or attorney with not proofed authentically identity.
I don’t feel confident, that are you not hunting a phantom.
We will grateful her for each hint bot rather-more for reasonable evidences.
Otherwise you should know that “he” is only a name associated with photos what can be misused.
Ben
4xcube/8topuz just screwed me for 100k and they advised me to set stop loss to 1. Now they don’t reply to my messages. Traded in Sept and went well for 3 months and Joao and Adae was very helpful until the stop out. They are blaming the markets. Ffs
Bamboozy
Oh my God, this is exactly what happened with the Strong Partners strategy run by Gary Strong, absolute scam, this happened in April, same technique used to deceive the investors. He is no longer with 4xcube, no doubt at all that Gary Strong is a serious player in the shady world of scams, but, it looks as though they were all in it together
Entrescameur
The protection that these scam brokers get is so wrong, FSC hasn’t honoured their promise to investigate for the victims,(not a great shock) it’s easy money for them, that’s why they set up off shore,because no one can touch them. Scamming….easiest job in the world.
Ron Gad
Hi Ben , can you please send me your contact information as we are filling a complaint and we will need any documents or evidence such as account statements , correspondances , etc
Leanne McGarth
Scammers – scammed me for 30k. I am so annoyed at myself to allow these scammers to scam me. I knew something was strange from the start.
Owners of the company just make excuses. They traded my money away.
Stay away – fake trading company
4xcube.com – 4xCube Official Website – €20,000 Investor Comp Fund – this is a scam advert
If anyone can help me please message here
Scammed me September 2020.
https://4xcube.com
Directors Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Joao Severino of 8topuz, Cyprus.
https://8topuz.com
They traded my money away, but promised me it was safe. Impossible to loose all my money they said.
Stay away from these traders, they have no idea how to manage funds professionally
J
https://4xcube.com
Directors Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Joao Severino of 8topuz, Cyprus.
https://8topuz.com
Directors Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Joao Severino of 4xcube, Cyprus.
https://4xcube.com
Directors Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Joao Severino of 8topuz, Cyprus.
https://8topuz.com
Many articles and videos posted online, here are a few
https://medium.com/@jmonteiro.speciale/the-benefits-of-artificial-intelligence-algorithmic-trading-in-todays-investing-70a2e39f31ec
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-bj1magXgbk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x9AwZr8tENg
Complaint:
Directors Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Joao Severino 4xcube & 8topuz, Cyprus.
Evidence of market manipulation, which is illegal in Europe. Securities laws and related SEC rules broadly prohibit fraud in the purchase and sale of securities, and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, Section 9, specifically makes it unlawful to manipulate security prices.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x9AwZr8tENg
Accusation:
Evidence of tampering with trades for serviced investors. This operation remain in practice.
Directors Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Joao Severino of 4xcube & 8topuz have now a estimated loss of €18.3 million that accounts for over 78% of their registered portfolio globally.
Directors Joao Monteiro, John Goddard & Joao Severino have refused to comment.
May 2020, they did a webinar and said it will allow you to ask questions with the founders of 8topuz, Joao Monteiro and Abdoulkader Abdi as well as Head of Digital, Anthony Munns and gain insights into the advanced and award-winning 8topuz AI wealth software. What a joke. What a scam.
Warning!!! Scam ⚠️ this company has stolen millions from investors from over 70 countries ⚠️
⚠️ Operating structure:
4xCube is an Offshore-Licensed Broker. It is NOT SAFE to trade.
* Company name:
4xCube Limited. 4xCube Technologies Ltd. 4xCube Group.
* Registration Address/ License:
Cook Islands. UK. Offshore License, No Regulation.
4xCube is a CFD and Forex broker that states their 20-year experience across different markets and clear, true STP/ ECN trading environment, which is accessible through unparalleled safety of trading accounts. The given information about the broker’s registration is rather unclear and confusing than confirming an authorized service delivery, despite the fact that the firm established this year 2018. The company behind the 4xCube brand is registered in the UK, while the leads going to the Cook Islands also with its claimed registered license.
However, in fact, the Cook Islands license from FSC (Financial Supervisory Commission) is an offshore one and is a very small Island, not a reputable financial location with the strictest investment firm establish standards. Your investment and trading itself might be at risk due to the fact the broker holds an only offshore license and not any other compared to a financial service licenses like UK’s DCA or Australian ASIC. Simply offshore firm means there is no strict and high check on the firms’ operation before its establishment or along the operating process. The offshore authority does not require high professionalism or follow of customer protection, therefore most often offshore broker deliver service as they wish. For that reason, it is the highest risk investment, as the trader never know what to expect.
Unfortunately, we can’t recommend 4xCube due to the lack of serious regulation, as long as safety measures always go first the regulated status is the only that can confirm the implemented security. Overall, we would better advise choosing among the Regulated brokers from the resected and reputable entities that prove their status with the constant check on of the operation by the industry authorities.
Warning!!! Scam ⚠️ Scammers ⚠️
John Goddard – Chief Financial Officer for 4xcube. Consults also for 3D Global, Cyprus. Refused to comment.
8topuz provides an Intelligent, supervised, multi-layered, AI Trading Software system that learns and adapts according to its environment.
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Joao is lead developer and likes to use a Martingale strategy. This is pure gambling as the odds of the market is not what he advertises to his followers.
Joao advertises from multiple fake profiles using social media and email marketing.
Warning!!! Scam ⚠️ Scammers ⚠️ Warning ⚠️ this company has stolen millions from investors from over 70 countries.
https://4xcube.com
All awards shown on https://8topuz.com are paid for by review sites. Paid for… everyone because the real traders actually perform trades.
Audit accounts still show address:
[email protected]
+359 56916949
2 Vasil Aprilov, 2nd floor
8000
Burgas
Bulgaria
https://youtu.be/-bj1magXgbk
About 8topuz
8topuz was founded as a result of a deep understanding of the FX market and the director’s interest in automating trading using advanced technology and AI.
Warning ⚠️ They have lost every account they have managed accept a few small amounts. They have only 1 year of historic accounts not 15 years. ⚠️
8topuz has only 1 year, not fifteen years of software development.
Its product was initially tailored to retail investors, but as they moved forward, they adapted to the market in two different scenarios, 8topuz understood that it could also be a very useful risk management tool for banks and investment funds and other institutional clients. With its ability to adapt to any market scenario, 8topuz now caters to institutional clients, hedge funds, retail investors and banks, so that it can be either B2B or B2C.
They have lied gain and again to get funding from Dubai. They will just use their brand as their current one is a reputation disaster.
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Warning!!! Scam ⚠️ Scammers ⚠️ Warning ⚠️ this company has stolen millions from investors from over 70 countries.
McMillan Woods Cyprus Ltd is a member firm of McMillan Woods Global.
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36 Pireaus Street, 3rd Floor, 2023 Strovolos, Nicosia
+357 22 2760000
[email protected]
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A company called USI Tech?
The company also claimed to be based in Dubai. However, the registration of the business is actually from Ras al Khaimah, another city in the United Arab Emirates that is well known for its offshore business registration services.
Warning!!! Scam ⚠️ Scammers ⚠️ Warning ⚠️ this company has stolen millions from investors from over 70 countries.
What we do know is that Joao Severino, Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Mike Kiefer, Mark ghobril and Ralf Gold founded the project. Before starting USI Tech, Severino was banned from all financial activity in Portugal because of his involvement with another scam company called AMC Invest. Even worse, Ralph Gold had been involved in all sort of Ponzi scheme companies. These included AdsProfitReward, MX Fast Money, World Consumer Alliance, HourlyRevShare, AdsProfitWiz, APR Clicks, and Upper Game.
For the most part, USI-Tech investors appear to have come to terms with having lost their money in a Ponzi scheme.
December 2017: USI Tech receives a cease-and-desist order from the Texas State Securities Board.
Thank you for the individuals that have been held on a gagging order yet still brave enough to speak out and supply evidence against the true villains of this fake company run by scammers.
Thank you to all that was involved in getting this message correctly formatted.
Pg
Be aware, they have been messaging people using images of others, fake identities & impersonating certain individuals to attract new investors.
Many genuine investors and promoters have genuinely been used and abused by the true owners of 4xcube which is now called 4xc.
PG
ID Fraud
4xc is using your ID for Advance fee fraud
A scam where you are persuaded to pay fees to a scammer and promised huge rewards in return. Also known as a ‘Nigerian scam’.
ASIC is investigating.
John Goddard
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=100254931594874&story_fbid=201832781437088
John Goddard the CEO of 4xcube, now called 4xc
The master mind behind all fraud
Joao
4XCUBE TECHNOLOGIES LTD
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Company Number11477472
Incorporation Date 23 Jul 2018 (3 years ago)
2018-07-23
Company TypePrivate Limited Company
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Name4XCUBE TECHNOLOGIES LTD
Registered Address UNITED KINGDOM, LONDON, 65 LONDON WALL, EC2M 5TU
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PERSON WITH SIGNIFICANT CONTROL
Mr Joao Paulo De Sousa Magalhaes Monteiro
Person with significant control
(23 Jul 2018)
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Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Joao Severino of 4xcube, Cyprus.
4xc – another company name change – scammers – fraudsters
4xcube and 8topuz and now rebranded to https://4xc.com and this is why:
Directors Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Joao Severino of 4xcube, Cyprus.
https://4xcube.com
Directors Joao Monteiro, John Goddard, Joao Severino of 8topuz, Cyprus.
https://8topuz.com
Exposed
I signed up in 2019 with 4xcube.
I invested my own money with 4xcube using one of their algorithms. They later called this 8topuz.
The owners of 4xcube also owned 8topuz.
My funds grew well so I recommended this platform to family & friends. We have a lot of funds loaded and traded by them.
The sold it off as my algorithm which in fact it was all theirs.
Few months later Joao, John & all the team at 4xcube & 8topuz claimed they made mistakes and all funds was wiped.
They tried to use me as a escape goat whilst they phrased themselves for being award winning FX traders & broker.
Looking back now I see I was scammed from day 1.
Joao is the owner of 4xcube brokerage & he pushes his algorithm company 8topuz at the same time.
Something very strange here is going on. Later in 2020 they lied to so many and took even more money from people I know and performed a name change to 4xc.
Has anyone else had a similar story?
They are now advertising for more promotors as they have scammed everyone they had.
2018/19/20/21 Scam Award goes to Joao, John and all the hard working team at 4xc & 8topuz.
I am now back using my old FX traders and rebuilding what I have lost.
I have successfully reported them to ASIC as they have scammed so many people in Australia
Bad service
In 2020 myself and my business partner also signed up as a 4xcube IB. We had managed to refer over £3.2m of business to them.
Terrible service & I never got paid. Clients has lost funds. 8topuz is 100% a martingale software company that blows accounts at some point.